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Singin' the Union Dues

Union reps fight tooth and nail to protect the jobs of their members, even the incompetents.

"Tea party extremists such as yourself, Mr. Bazzo would rip to pieces every fairly negotiated public employee contract ever agreed upon. However, I am sure that would be just fine with you."

"Mr. Bazzo does not care about decades of legally negotiated contracts. Whatever loophole he and others can find to wiggle out of an agreement they will use."

The two above comments more or less summarize the responses I get when I write about the unaffordable public employee contracts.   "Fairly negotiated" and "legally negotiated" contracts, one term incorrect, the other correct.  Yes, legally negotiated, but only in the perverse system we in New York live under.  However, "Fairly negotiated" no way, no how. There never was and never has been anything fair about negotiations with public unions. The problem is there was never anyone representing the employer, read that the taxpayer.

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Aidan August 05, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Walden, we've got two different issues here. The first is whether or not over-time should be added to the base salary for purposes of pension calculation. Second, should more folks be hired to cover any shift short-fall. I would suspect that most folks, at times, do appreciate OT possibilities ... in order to ram up their take-home pay. I'd certainly take that route. However, that does not automatically mean that those earning should be part of a pension calculation as they are now. That's the next step the state needs to take. To separate these two. Workers should be entitled to a reasonable pension ... one that includes some employee contribution and an end-result that is not subject to arbitrary changes. Whether widespread or not, there is abuse ... and the public wants it curtailed. And I don't think that is an entirely unreasonable request at all.
Aidan August 05, 2012 at 09:27 PM
Mr. Bazzo, I'm not in total agreement with you, but you certainly have the right to present a case that many think has merit. And those on the other side of the issue feel certain that laws and past practice are on their side. There's gotta be a middle ground. There always is. But that all seems lost in recent years. Everyone is so dug in we're all thisclose to paralysis. There is nothing that cannot be resolved fairly.
Clarkstown life August 05, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Dog.......you are so doom and gloom......a real joy to be around.....
Ross Revira August 05, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Past practices were instituted at a time when China and India were riding only bicycles for transportation. Providing health care,a defined benefit pension and lifetime job security is what everyone desires. Unfortunately the world has changed and one only has to look at Europe to see where the US is headed. Taxing the so-called rich at 100% will not bring in enough money to sustain our present path. Close to 50% of all Americans are receiving some form of government check. Social Security In 1940, there were 42 workers per retiree. In 1950, the ratio was 16-to-1. In 2010, there were 2.8 workers per retiree, and within 40 years, it’s projected that there will be just two workers per retiree. At the present rate, as the population ages and life expectancies continue to rise, the system will not be able to sustain itself into the future without major reform. America was not built by the government doling out money, but by individuals working harder and smarter to better the lives of them self and their family. It would seem the only people left with the American dream are the illegal aliens who come here for that very same reason. I hope we can wake up before it is all gone.
Heron August 08, 2012 at 12:01 AM
Wow. You're right. I don't like to use my real name. Anyway, I had a good impression of you and it's nice to see that you're here. I remember that you had no hesitation about expressing yourself. And you still don't.

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