New York's Presidential Primary - Will It Matter?

Croton-on-Hudson Trustee Anne Gallelli writes about how NY Republicans have a chance to influence the selection of their Presidential candidate in spite of a late primary.

In 2011, both Democrats and Republicans agreed on April 24th,2012 as the Presidential Primary – agreeing to hold the event on the same day for both parties.  This set the Presidential Primary date almost two months later than it was held in 2008. 

As Democrats already used a proportional system for allocating convention delegates and the Republicans in New York were changing to a proportional system for delegate allocation to replace its previous winner-take-all system, it was thought that a later date would allow New York to have more influence on the eventual outcome. There was also speculation that warmer weather would result in a higher turnout.

For the New York Democratic Committee, the date was of less
concern as they did not anticipate that there would be anyone challenging
President Obama.  According to Democratic rules, if there is only one candidate who has qualified for the primary, then there would be no primary. In the absence of a Presidential primary, New York Democrats will send 384 delegates to their convention in Charlotte, NC in September, 2012 in support of Mr. Obama. 

As it turns out for the New York Republicans, the results of their April 24 Presidential primary contest will likely be quite influential in the selection of a Republican Presidential nominee.  Republicans will send a total of 95 delegates
to their convention in Tampa, Florida in late August – 92 to be selected as a
result of the primary.   The national Republican Committee’s change to proportional primaries in the early months has led to a real contest among candidates to achieve the required number of delegates to achieve nomination.  As of April 24, no one candidate  will have the magic number of 1144 delegates, giving New York’s 95 delegates real influence in the final selection.

Along with several other Northeast states – Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Delaware, on April 24th, New York Republicans will have an opportunity to make their presidential preference known. Depending on its outcome, the New York delegation to Tampa may have real influence on the outcome.

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Bob Zahm March 23, 2012 at 12:43 AM
The author has got to be kidding. NYS matters in the selection of Republican presidential candidate? When there's zero chance that, regardless of who the Republican will be, NYS would actually have a majority vote for a Republican? Puhlease!
Dick Hubert March 23, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Bob, how does it feel to suddenly find your congressman is Eliot Engel?
Betsy Shaw Weiner March 25, 2012 at 12:16 PM
For New York Republicans the interesting question remains: How many candidates actually will be in the primary ballot? Did the four thus far remaining in the contest collect the required number of signatures to be on the ballot in every Congressional district? In any case, all Republicans should express their preference among the candidates that appear. That's what New York primaries are for, after all - to give registered voters who are enrolled in a party a chance to help choose the candidate for that party.
John April 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Same could be said for the New 17th Congressional District. Left wondering why Dick chose to challenge the signature petitions of the other two aspiring GOP candidates wanting to run in NY's New 17th Congressional District and against the 24 year Ultra Liberal entrenched incumbent, Nita Lowey. Republican Voters deserve a CHOICE, not a predisposed GOP mandate, the same one who voted for Obama back in 2008. What say YOU?
John April 23, 2012 at 12:41 AM
More Facts coming to light. Also interesting that YOU Dick, have no Party Affiliation. Accordingly, you are not a Republican, and as such, and in my opinion, you should have no bearing on the upcoming GOP 17th Congressional District's choices as to who should have the GOP nomination, and which 17th GOP Congressional petitioners should be excluded by your challenges. Just Saying! In the 2010 Congressional Election - County Republican Chairman Doug Colety, endorsed a Democrat, Paul Wasserman, over a number of "real" Republicans, for Congress in the former 18th Congressional District, to run against Congresswoman Lowey. Mr. Wasserman also had some legal problems that Mr. Colety was aware of, when he issued the endorsement. Those legal matters eventually forced Mr. Wasserman from the race. Colety has a history of putting up candidates to run against Ms. Lowey, who have no chance of beating her. Also, in July of 2010, Colety sent out 14 Republicans to collect signatures for Ms. Lowey, the Democrat. Most of these individuals were District Leaders; many of them were attorneys; some were also running for office; all of them were Notaries.
John April 23, 2012 at 12:44 AM
They collected signatures on Independence Party petitions (I have copies of the actual petition pages). By doing so, they allowed Ms. Lowey to gain the Independence Line on the ballot, where she realized @ 6,000 votes in the general election. Without the signatures that these "Republicans" collected, Ms. Lowey would never have received the Independence Line, nor the @ 6,000 votes. If Colety wanted to secure the Independence line for someone, why not his own candidate?
John April 23, 2012 at 12:46 AM
2012 Congressional District 17 Election Mr. Colety has endorsed Joseph Carvin as the Republican Party Candidate. Mr. Carvin had recently attempted a run for the US Senate seat held by Kirsten Gillibrand. Unfortunately, for Mr. Carvin, he was not received very well at the State Convention. Of the 62 Republican County Committees in New York State, who vote to endorse a candidate, Mr. Carvin only managed support from only one - Westchester (Colety). In the period leading up to the convention, some Republican Chairs from upstate questioned Carvin's Republican values. A letter was circulated, addressing the fact that Carvin admittedly voted for Obama in 2008 and is pro-abortion. The letter also questions his business dealings. (The newspaper article and actual letter that was circulated are attached.) He could not fool them with his rhetoric; they felt his actions spoke louder than his words. (By the way, Carvin is a Hedge Fund Manager - a person who risks someone else's money to turn a profit for himself; I believe we have enough people in Washington, who have no problem risking our money now. Do we need another?)
John April 23, 2012 at 12:48 AM
In addition to the issues mentioned in the letter, we have found that Carvin's wife, Rozlyn, made two donations to the Obama Re-Election Fund in September of 2011. She is also a registered "Republican". It would appear that nothing has changed from 2008 and the Carvins continue to support Obama. Another issue, which would raise questions about Mr. Carvin's principles is the fact that as Rye Town Supervisor, he has promoted the "Model American Community Project". The stated "ultimate goal would be to have an "'utopic' community - an attainable 'utopia'". Last we checked, attaining a "utopian" society is not one of the principles of the Republican Party. As a matter of fact, we believe that it is more in line with socialist goals. To see the information on this matter, you can either google "The Model American Community Project" - The Town of Rye, or, go to http://townofryeny.com/ryetown/ModAmCom.php.
John April 23, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Some additional information on Mr. Carvin: He lived out of the Country for the majority of time since he graduated college (in the 70's) until he returned to the U.S. in 2002. When he returned, he registered to vote as an Independent (Non-Party) voter, as did his wife. He changed his party affiliation to Republican in 2005. His wife followed him to the Republican Party in 2006. Mr. Carvin made the change so that he could run for office in the Village on the Republican Line. He ran two unsuccessful campaigns for the Village office. However, in 2007, he ran for Rye Town Supervisor as a Republican, and won the election.
Ann Gallelli April 23, 2012 at 01:14 AM
The article being commented upon was only about the Presidential Primary on this coming Tuesday, April 24. However, based on the comments posted, it looks like the June 26th Congressional primary will be quite interesting.
Johanna April 23, 2012 at 02:56 AM
So, let me get this straight... Dick challenges any and all candidates' signatures unless they are those of Carvin because that is who Dick likes -- even though Carvin's support of Obama is likely to cost him the election. Looks like Dick really likes Lowey. It also looks as if Dick wants to take away the people's right to choose a more qualified candidate to run for Congress. Isn't that why we have primaries? Yes, it is so the people -- not Dick -- can decide who will represent the 17th District.
John April 25, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Well Johanna, appears as if you've encapsulated the crux of this issue quite nicely, I'd have to say. Thanks for your keen observations.
John April 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM
As they say, a Picture is worth a Thousand words, or in the case of we Conservatives, a video from Frank Morganthaler, Conservative Republican wanting to run for New York's New 17th Congressional District. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7I6_Dwtbmg
SRT April 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM
Dick, You should watch the video at the end of these comments, I think they are calling you a political hack, don't know if Morganthaler is correct but he does make a compelling argument.


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